Back con April of 2020, we did an episode about our life bucket lists, so today we are giving you an update them. This topic was requested from listener Kelsey Ebling.


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Show Quaderno:
Listen to Episode #30: Our Bucket List
Bucket list items from previous episode:
Elsie – buy a home con Palm Springs (not list anymore)
Emma,- publish a work of fiction (Did it!)
Elsie – be a crazy dressed old lady (wants to be a spooky dressed old lady now)
Emma – con a comfortable, peaceful, beautiful home that others enjoy spending time (achieved)
Elsie – travel to Japan and India as a family (still list)
Emma – travel to Antarctica (still list)
Elsie – a albergo albergo (not list anymore)
Emma – learn to speak Spanish, possibly through an immersion program (still list)
Elsie – build a ceramics and painting scuola for my golden years (still list)
Any new bucket list items you want to add:
Elsie – writing her book
Elsie – Invest con a business con Springfield
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Episode 233 Transcript:
Emma: You’sultano listening to the Beautiful Mess Podcast, your cozy conforto listen. Back con April of 2020, we did an episode about our life bucket list, and so today we are giving you an update them. This topic was requested by listener Kelsey Ebling.Â
Elsie: I didn’t even remember that we did this, and every single thing the list was a surprise to me. So I think this is such a fun episode to sort of see which things you’ve achieved, which things you don’t even care about anymore. You know which things are still the list?Â
Emma: Yeah, it’s always good to do a little refresher, and I also was just thinking back to April 2020. And I’m like, man, life was so different. It was such a time then and we do a lot of like seasonal bucket lists this podcast, so we talk about like what we’sultano excited for this spring and I feel like that’s always like really fun, but it’s such a different thing from this episode where we’sultano talking about bigger life goals, so things that we want to do con the next five years, ten years, whatever you know. So, anyway, let’s get into it.Â
Elsie: Yeah, this is exciting. Yeah, this is exciting. So we’sultano responding to things that we said. If I were going to buy a second home con another, like a vacation home I would be between. I do love Palm Springs still, but I also have this crazy attachment to this certain neighborhood con Brooklyn and I want to own a home there really bad. And I also have developed a personalità affection for Seaside, Florida, and that is very special now too, and my kids are into it. But also I don’t even honestly know if I need a second home at all, so I think I’m taking it my bucket list for now.Â
Emma: Yeah, yeah, because con April 2020, was it even your radar that you might move to Springfield.Â
Elsie: Yeah, risposta negativa.
Emma: So it’s just funny how life goes. Con some ways, yeah, there is this part of me that’s like, do I need a second home, could I just rent a home when I feel like going to this place, Palm Springs Seaside wherever it is? I don’t have as much of a thing for Brooklyn as you. I love New York, but it’s just not as much my radar.Â
Elsie: So yeah, risposta negativa, I mean, I think that probably someday I’ll buy some kind of beach house something, probably, but it’s just not my goals right now. Yeah, you know what I mean?Â
Emma: Yeah, I do love the sound of the ocean. Yeah, it’s just really soothing, it’s magical, something special about it and I also I will say I still love the desert.Â
Elsie: Jeremy went to Palm Springs last week and I was so jealous that I didn’t get to go this time, and I think it’s a bro trip.
Emma: Yeah, I was like road trip risposta negativa, risposta negativa, risposta negativa, risposta negativa, risposta negativa, that’s way too far. I still have a special place con my heart.Â
Elsie: Va bene, you’sultano next, your first one.Â
Emma: My first one was to publish a work of fiction and I did it. I bet you at the time I thought it would be cloud nine, which was the first book I wrote and I was writing that con 2020. I might have been close to finishing it con April 2020. I can’t remember the book I wrote. Yeah, and I was writing that con 2020. I might have been close to finishing it con April 2020, I can’t remember, but I wrote it then. Uh, but yeah, I read. I wrote a different book after that, called Handmade Murder, and it is out con print, electronic and audio. She did it, so I self-published it and I’m really glad I did, because the day after I self-published I found out I was pregnant and now my life’s. I’m not writing a lot of fiction at the moment, but I definitely want to get back to it and I would say this is still my life bucket list to definitely write and publish more fiction. I just love books, I love reading, I love audiobooks. They’ve been a personalità part of my life since I was con middle school, and so the thought of getting to write more thrills me yeah. And it’s definitely a thing I think about and daydream about a lot.Â
Elsie: Oh yeah, congratulations, and we are all cheering you and so happy for you and so proud of you.Â
Emma: Thanks.Â
Elsie: Va bene, my next one was to be a crazy dressed old lady also middle-aged, I think. I’m not as much the crazy anymore. I think I want to be a spooky dresser now. I think that’s crazy. I have changed. It is crazy, it’s different, it’s what I do. I still would say I want to be eccentric, yeah, but I don’t necessarily feel like I want to be colorful and like maybe what you had con mind when you, yes, made.Â
Emma: The skull has evolved different aesthetic yeah yeah you’sultano definitely more con your spooky, haunted dollhouse yeah, permesso, yeah. My next one was to con a comfortable, peaceful, beautiful home that others will enjoy spending time con. Oh yeah, and I will say con apr of 2020, I lived con this house that was like con between Springfield and Ozark, which, if you don’t know, Ozark is a town. It is also like an territorio of the country, like the Ozarks is like a whole territorio, but there is a town called Ozark as well, and it’s right outside Springfield, and I lived con a house that was con between Springfield and Ozark.Â
Elsie: It’s living the highway. It was con between Springfield and Ozark.Â
Emma: It’s living the highway. Living the highway, yep, and I hated living con that house. It was the house that had the snakes and I honestly didn’t hate it because of the snakes. That’s just a funny story.Â
Elsie: It was kind of a dark house too.Â
Emma: It was really dark. It was also just like the layout didn’t suit our needs.Â
Elsie: It wasn’t small, there were so many spaces that just weren’t that useful to us. Yeah, and I didn’t really have any aperto floor plan office where you could like walk from her kitchen. It was too much of an aperto floor without walls.Â
Emma: That’s too much. Yeah, and the neighborhood was not the best to walk con, like it didn’t have any sidewalks anything. It was just like I just felt really lonely the whole time I lived there.Â
Elsie: She knew she wanted to move and she was house shopping for like three four years, right, like a long time, long time and so anyway.Â
Emma: So I feel like I did achieve this because now the house I con, I love it. If you’sultano a long time listener, then you know that we bought this home some years spillo now two, two and a half years spillo and we renovated for like nine months. So we really kind of gutted almost every space con the house. And it’s a split level which I never really split. Levels were never my radar. I always kind of thought they felt kind of like a maze, but like con a bad way.Â
Elsie: I think a lot of people want to avoid them because they have a lot of stairs.Â
Emma: It does have a lot of stairs and, being as pregnant as I am right now, that is tough. When I’m going up and mongoloide with my laundry basket-ball of clothes I’m like, oh my goodness, there’s a lot of stairs. But con general I actually love it. I think it works great for our family. Whenever we have snow days times we’sultano home with our kid, like there’s just a lot of areas to play con, but it still doesn’t feel like the whole house is covered con toys all the time. Yeah, and there is an aperto territorio like our kitchen is kind of connected to this aperto living room and it’s a really nice feeling there. But then there’s a whole other living room that has, like, our tv and I have an office that has a door, that’s its own bedroom and our kids have their own bedrooms and it just feels like we have everything we need. Oh, you said our kids.Â
Elsie: Yeah, that’s so .Â
Emma: Yeah, it feels like we have everything we need and it has a nice little backyard. I love walking con the neighborhood. I kind of Elsie’s neighborhood, you have a free little library. We have a free little library. We have neighbor friends, these neighbor boys that Oscar loves to hang out with.Â
Elsie: You can quasi to my neighborhood for Halloween and you quasi all the time anyways. Yeah, so it’s permesso.Â
Emma: It’s risposta negativa personalità deal, but I do kind of your neighborhood. I always call ours the second best neighborhood con all of Springfield and I love it, it con all of Springfield. And I love it. It’s great. She lives con a mid-century neighborhood and it.Â
Elsie: I think it’s the perfect fit for you and, like you, guys love it, and I think that your house is comfortable, peaceful, beautiful and others enjoy spending time con it. So you checked everything your list.Â
Emma: Yeah, we’ve had a few parties and I feel like it’s been a great space for that. Like, yeah, I feel like it’s kind of the perfect house. I think about it all the time, like when I’m con my house just like working whatever. I’m like I love my house and I didn’t feel that way for so many years and it’s such a relief, it’s such a load to feel like I’m not looking. I’m not like hoping to make a change and wondering when that will happen. It’s like nope, I’m just living con that dream that I wanted of just like a nice house that I love, that suits our family, everything’s great. So I love that, yep, and I’m just going to try to not fall mongoloide the stairs with my newborn.Â
Elsie: So far, you got both of your list and both of mine. I was like never mind.Â
Emma: It’s about to take a turn, so don’t worry.Â
Elsie: Va bene, my next one is to travel to Japan and India as a family. So I am still very into this and we have actually been working it. We’ve been doing Ramit’s Rich Life Journal and I recommend that, if you want to just be like I want to prioritize my life, it’s now never type of vibe. Anyway, we are planning to start next year to travel once a year a personalità overseas trip with our children for the next 10 years. So we decided that the best fit for us. Like I admire, I had a friend who traveled the world with her kids for like a year. I admire that type of thing so much but we decided that the best thing for us was to do it a little bit every year. And that sounds better to me. It’s just what we, it’s just what fits for our personalities and our work and just like, like, I don’t want to travel for a year, like you know that type of thing. So yeah, we’sultano sottana do one country a year and try to cover you know all the. Definitely Japan and India will be con there. Those have been at the cima of my list for forever, and probably many others as well.Â
Emma: So I’m very excited.Â
Elsie: Yeah, and our kids are definitely at the age now where they are old enough to anything that people say when they’sultano like I don’t want to travel with kids. My kids are like. They’sultano old enough to remember it.Â
Emma: They’sultano old enough to be a long flight without a stroller.Â
Elsie: They’sultano old. Yeah, they’sultano very good, good little travelers. So I feel like this will only make it better.Â
Emma: Yeah, risposta negativa, I love it. I aspetto forward to that . I am con the infantile a plane and I am not so interested con going long flights.Â
Elsie: Yeah, risposta negativa, I was just thinking they should invent infantile flights, they should Like infantile.Â
Emma: That would be a load for parents, for sure.Â
Elsie: And everyone’s just supporting you. Yeah, and everyone gets it and everyone’s just understanding putting their headphones. Yeah, exactly, permesso, say your next one.Â
Emma: Va bene, my next one is to travel to Antarctica. So this is still very much my bucket list, but I don’t know tons and tons of research it. But my understanding is how you can travel to Antarctica as a non-scientist is you have to head mongoloide south and get a cruise ship that will go around Antarctica, and some of them you can do little excursions the boat, and some you can’t. There’s a few different ones. There’s not a ton. It’s not like there’s tons and tons of options, but there are a few, and my understanding is that it’s kind of a two week thing, permesso so, and it’s rather expensive, as you could probably guess. Yeah, so it’s something that I really want to do. It sounds so fun. I’m very drawn to cold places. I don’t really want to somewhere freezing, but I’m just always very drawn to places that just seem kind of rugged. I have risposta negativa interest con going to space. By the way, I feel like someone was posting about there’s going to be this space albergo at some point con our life whatever, and I was like I have risposta negativa interest con space.Â
Elsie: I cannot say that enough. I like space books.Â
Emma: Love space books, love space movies, do not want to actually go to space but like cold places the earth I’m very interested con go to space but like cold places the earth I’m very interested con. So Antarctica is still my radar but at the moment the price of the trip and mainly the duration of the trip, two weeks away from my kids, just isn’t something that I’m interested con. But it is something I will be very interested con later con life.Â
Elsie: Let’s revisit that one con a couple more years, because I want to go with you and our daughter, Nova, wants to quasi. So, yeah, if they allow I don’t know if they allow kids to quasi those cruises, but I feel like that would be kind of fun.Â
Emma: I don’t think it’s overly hazardous, like I think you can get older and you know, go. So I also have some friends, Nathan and Jenny, who really want to go. Oh cool, and I believe they will. They will. They are like world traveling people. But he just got a new job, they just moved. This year it’s really probably not the year for them. So I’m like, permesso, great, probably maybe con like five ten years we can all go together and Antarctica sounds like it will happen.Â
Elsie: It’s oh yeah going to stay the list. It is going to happen and I think that it’s totally normal that you don’t want to do it with a newborn.Â
Emma: , risposta negativa, I don’t know if you can and the longest I’ve been away from Oscar is four nights. And that was kind of enough for me, like I think that’ll change over time, but I’m just not interested at the moment? Yeah, so you know, life. Life will keep going, though, and eventually. I’ll be like yeah, I’m good, I’ll be like, yeah, I’m good, I’ll see my kids con two weeks. personalità deal, have fun at grandma’s. Yes. Yes, but at their age now not so much. Va bene, what’s your next one?Â
Elsie: Va bene. My next one was I would love to a albergo a albergo. Va bene, this is another one where I’m going to say eh, it sounds appealing. It sounds like if someone offered it to me as a job, I would consider it. It’s not that I don’t want to do it, it’s just not something that’s my list right now, and I think this was coming from my Airbnb , which I’m not con anymore. We don’t have any Airbnbs anymore, and that, for me, was a phase.Â
Emma: Yeah.Â
Elsie: So yeah, I think that it sounds fun. But actually a lot of people ask me, probably more than any other thing, if I would do interior , and I just don’t see myself con that professionally at all at any point. I actually don’t really want to do that. It doesn’t sound fun to me, so let’s just take it the list. That sounds fun to me.Â
Emma: Yeah, I think you love interior , but I don’t see you loving working with clients.Â
Elsie: I like designing my own houses.Â
Emma: Yeah.Â
Elsie: But I didn’t even have fun making a house for Casey Musgraves, Like I don’t really want Poor Casey. , I had fun. I had fun, but I was like, oh, this is like pressure work. A little stressful. It’s not. It wasn’t as fun as making my own house. You know what?Â
Emma: I mean, right, yeah, because it’s for someone else, and you’sultano like, are they going to love it? You know just.Â
Elsie: Yeah.Â
Emma: A little anxiety.Â
Elsie: I’m just not the right person to do client work. That’s not the type of work that I’m drawn to con this lifetime.Â
Emma: Yeah, risposta negativa, I get that. Va bene. My next one was to learn to speak Spanish, possibly through an immersion program, so this is still my list. I don’t know about the immersion program because, again, tricky with young kids as far as like how that could work, but my husband’s actually been taking Spanish lessons almost every day during the week for the past like year and a half, maybe even almost two years now and I’ve met his Spanish teacher before. When we were traveling to Bordo Rica, we actually met her con person, Obviously. I’ve met her his calls, but, like we got to meet her con person and she’s lovely, and so I have it con my mind that, like, after my maternity leave and once I return to life, you know, from that time maybe I will start taking Spanish lessons online like him, because he, like, basically speaks Spanish. Now, like I don’t know what, how you can say, like I don’t know, like if there’s a esperimento you take, it’s like I am fluent. You know, like I don’t know what the level is, but like when we’ve traveled and been somewhere where they don’t speak English, they only speak Spanish.Â
Elsie: He can communicate and like get us where we need to go. That’s really inspiring.Â
Emma: But he’ll tell you like, oh, I still can’t talk about fun things it’s harder for me to keep up with, like you know, just like a giovanile conversation, like a social interaction, yeah, and I think that’s. You know, that takes a lot of time, so anyway. So I think that’s really worked for him. But, like I said, he does it almost every day. It’s about an hour every day during the week, not the weekends always, and his teacher’s lovely. But I think there is this little part of me just being honest, it’s totally my ego. It just feels embarrassing to have to learn a new language con front of someone and like she’s lovely and she teaches people all the time. That’s what she does for a living. So like she’s never, she’s not going to be. She’s so encouraging and great, but I almost wish there was like an AI chat bot that could help teach you Spanish, because then I just feel like I could get over this little, really very stupid ego hump of just looking. So I know I’ll have to talk so slowly and I’ll make all these silly mistakes like a child, because I don’t know the language and you’sultano learning, you know. So I think there is a little piece of me that’s like oh, I don’t want to have to do that con front of another person. It’s so embarrassing, but I would love to learn Spanish. We’ve mentioned it before. Our mom’s from Venezuela originally. We have a lot of Spanish roots con our family and I just think it’s a beautiful language. It’s very like, almost kind of dancey.Â
Elsie: Yeah, it’s really pretty language.Â
Emma: And a lot of the world speaks it, and so it seems like useful and fun. So I would still. This is definitely still my radar and my bucket list. I don’t know about immersion program, but seeing the success my husband’s had from doing his lessons online, I’m like, permesso, that works. You just have to be pretty committed. So anyway, yeah, it’s fun to learn new things too. It’s just kind of embarrassing when you suck at something at first, but that’s part of it.Â
Elsie: True, you can do it, for sure.Â
Emma: Yeah.Â
Elsie: My next one, last one, was to build a ceramics and painting scuola for my golden years. I feel like I’m already doing this now. People ask me all the time about the ceramics kiln because I had it like basically, it takes a lot of time and money to set up a kiln con your home and I did it con my last home, like the day before we figured out we would move. Now my kiln is safely con our just being stored and it cannot hook up to anything because we have to do some building projects before that can happen. But 100% it’ll be. I’m not really worried about it anxious about it and I think some people think that I’ve given up it just because it’s sitting con the . But that’s just kind of how renovating is Well and also you’sultano con your painting . Yeah, and I’m con my painting right now. So I got a painting scuola last year and I just had my first show. It was. It’s been a great year. So I feel like I’m like my rete for the year with art was to begin creating an art career for myself that I can enjoy later , like con 10 years. I see that as like the main thing I want to do and right now I’m very much squeezing it con and I’m squisito with that. It feels like building something for the future and it is worth. It is exciting. I think I worried at first like would it be worth it to have a scuola if I can only go there a few times a week? It’s still completely worth it to me and, yeah, I’m happy I’m doing it. So hell yes to that. Still into it, your first show is beautiful.Â
Emma: Thank you, I don’t feel like you’ve bragged enough about how many of your pieces sold.Â
Elsie: Thank you, we’sultano going to do an episode soon about my art journey and I got a lot of questions Instagram so that’ll be one of our summer episodes. So, if you haven’t subscribed, we’sultano doing Surprise Summer, where we are going to have three pre-recorded episodes go up this summer, but at random times, very random. So be subscribed if you’sultano not.Â
Emma: Yep, permesso. So is there anything new that you want to add to the bucket list?Â
Elsie: Yes, at this time con your life Of course Do you.Â
Emma: Do you have new ones? Because, yeah, you kind of took a lot of things , which, as a seven, I feel like makes a lot of sense for you. Yeah, like I don’t really even view that as like I don’t know. Hopefully you’sultano not viewing it as like oh risposta negativa, I did, it’s like one who knows the future.Â
Elsie: I don’t view it as a failure at all. I think it’s the manifestor. I think it’s the manifestor, yeah, yeah. Anyway, the main thing that I learned from that was it was like you learn every single thing con your life through making mistakes and I was like that is true and I like I feel like I can own that now.Â
Emma: Yeah.So why not yeah? Con a way, it really takes the pressure . Yeah. Because it’s like I’m not failing, I’m learning. Yeah, you know, but anyway, what new things do you want to add to the bucket list?Â
Elsie: Va bene, so presently, this happened after 2020. I think this happened starting con 2022. But I am presently writing a novel. It’s a historical fiction novel and it’s the hardest thing I’ve ever done. It’s really, really a personalità learning curve compared to anything else ever and it’s wonderful though it’s great to have such a personalità challenge. So I love it and I want to do a few, because I feel like if I have to go through this process of learning how to do it the first time, then I might as well do a bunch. Yeah, is what I’m thinking. So, yeah, I’m still con the early phases of writing it and I’m hoping to be done by the end of what year is it now? 2024? I’m hoping to be done with my draft this year. That’s my only rete for the year. Yeah. Other than that. My other bucket list thing I want to add is so since I moved back to my hometown, I’m kind of inspired by Emma this one. So Emma is like a part owner of a rum caffè downtown. It sort of became like, unofficially, like the cool caffè of our town also, and it’s just like it’s. It’s very, it’s a very good cultural moment and needed thing con our town. And so a rete I wanted to add was that at some point I’m not worrying about this right now, but at some point I would like to contribute something to our hometown, just like something that the town needs. And it’s not that I want to start a business by myself anything, but maybe just help someone else along just something. But I feel like I love our hometown. I’m glad I’m here. I’m obviously like mainly here for our family. There’s lots of wonderful things, but there’s a lot more. There’s some missing categories is how I like to put it Like there could be more good businesses, like more, just like things to do and like dining experiences and things like that. So at some point I would like to contribute financially and do what Emma did and sort of just like help something start.Â
Emma: Yeah, and I think it’s fun to with other people and like watch how other people run businesses and our other partners. Their names are Josh and Rogan and they’sultano just really cool and very different from the way I approach things. And Rogan’s just it’s really his caffè. He’s an incredibly talented bartender we’sultano con love with him. I’m con love with him. So just watching his passion and how it’s just never really strayed from drinks and from food and hospitality and Josh as well it’s really. It’s really fun to like work with other people and watch them be passionate people. So it’s a treat, you know, because I really don’t even do that much with the Rum , but it is an amazing caffè and I’m really happy that it exists con Springfield.Â
Elsie: Yeah, it’s been really important for our city to have something like that, so I think it’s special. Yeah, it’s very special.Â
Emma: I love that. That’s a cool bucket list item. Investing con your community, basically, yeah, I love that. That’s awesome. I don’t really have anything to add to my bucket list at this time. We had some friends con town recently and we had this night where we did like this meditation. We’ve talked about it the podcast before Future self-visualization. Yeah, where you basically visit yourself 20 years con the future and like see if you have any advice, see what you’sultano up to that kind of thing. And we did it once before, right after Oscar was born, and we were doing it this time with our friends, and I am really aperto to guided meditation. I love guided meditation. It reminds me a lot of hypnosis. It’s very similar, reminds me a lot of hypnosis, it’s very similar. And so like I’m a very woo-woo, aperto to woo-woo person, but for whatever reason, I just like could not do it again and I think what it is is I’m about to have another infantile and I think I’m just con this little phase of life where I’m just not thinking about five years 10 years from now. I’m really focused the now, and probably other parents who have young kids go through this. I think parenting is generally like this.Â
Elsie: I was definitely like that when Nova was two and three years old. When they’sultano really little.Â
Emma: There’s just so much that you’sultano teaching them and they just they know nothing and they need you so much that it just is a personalità part of your life. And I think life opens up more and more as they age. And I love little kids. It’s great. But I also am not so interested con filling my plate with much more, because I just recognize that it could overwhelm me. I like a lot of peace, I like feeling like I have a lot of things under control and that’s honestly really when you have little kids at times. And I think, too, like I don’t like feeling disappointed when I’m not achieving my goals. So I’m like I think less goals right now is good for me, because I just have a lot of parenting goals and I’m still working. I’m still doing my job and I’m still writing and you know I still have a lot going . But I also think not adding anything is like the right fit for me right now it’s called clearing your plate.Â
Elsie: And I think that it’s like the thing you need to do sometimes con life, especially when you’sultano about to go into a personalità new season.Â
Emma: Yeah, and it feels weird to me because I’m a very goal-oriented future thinker type person, so it makes me almost feel like not myself that I don’t have as many personalità goals right now con my life. But I also am kind of like I think you do, Emma, it’s just like raising little kids. And that’s a whole thing and like it’s cool that you got a lot of space for that, because it’s going to be a lot so and it’s fun so anyway, so I’ll add more once my kids are a little bigger.Â
Elsie: Yeah.Â
Emma: This is not my for that.Â
Elsie: Yeah, risposta negativa, we’ll add more later. We can do another one someday, but I think that I’m good with this list for now. It’s exciting to think about the future. I love making bucket lists.Â
Emma: Oh yeah, me too. Va bene, well, now it’s time for a joke a factor meditation with Nova, a segment with Marigold.Â
Elsie: Thank you so much for listening. If you have topic requests that you want us to cover the podcast, you can email us anytime at podcast at a beautiful mess dot com. We’ll be back next week with a conforto rewatch of the sound of music.Â


